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Post by Deadpool is Insane on Jul 27, 2009 17:57:01 GMT -5
Prince Mamuwalde
Debut Year: 1972 Debut Movie: BlaculaBLACULA... from the depths of hell BLACULA... Dracula's soul brother BLACULA... rated PG Vs.The Pale Man
Debut Year: 2006 Debut Movie: Pan's LabyrinthIt's time for a race war!
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Post by thelesserevil on Jul 27, 2009 18:03:29 GMT -5
Pale man looks creepy and cool, but come on Blacula is Blacula, so he gets my vote.
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Post by bob on Jul 27, 2009 18:16:40 GMT -5
The Pale Man since I've seen him in Pan's Labyrinth and the other film is an exploitation film
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Post by The Raven on Jul 27, 2009 18:23:24 GMT -5
The pale dude, although he kinda needs a more creative name, given how awesome he looks.
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Post by thelesserevil on Jul 27, 2009 18:45:48 GMT -5
You guys are lame
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Post by Deadpool is Insane on Jul 27, 2009 21:14:42 GMT -5
You guys are just voting for whitey! I vote for Blacula.
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Post by Some kind of a DSR-type person on Jul 28, 2009 0:15:47 GMT -5
The Pale Man since I've seen him in Pan's Labyrinth and the other film is an exploitation film a.) I fail to see how anybody is being exploited by Blacula. What, black people don't want to see other black people on film? And Black actors don't want fans? I could see if the movie were made in a way that mocked black people but... b.) ...It wasn't. The title is lurid, sure, but the film itself presents a a pretty compelling set of characters and situations. Prince Mamuwalde is cursed with vampirism, he is freed from his coffin, meets his reincarnated wife, and then has to struggle with the dichotomy between his role as an undead monster thirsting for blood and his role as a loving husband. c.) All of the above is done in such a way that is gripping, both in terms of emotional substance AND terror. d.) Blacula won the Saturn award for Best Horror Film for 1972. Its far from the cornball goof-off its perceived as.
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Post by The Raven on Jul 28, 2009 9:58:09 GMT -5
The Pale Man since I've seen him in Pan's Labyrinth and the other film is an exploitation film a.) I fail to see how anybody is being exploited by Blacula. What, black people don't want to see other black people on film? And Black actors don't want fans? I could see if the movie were made in a way that mocked black people but... b.) ...It wasn't. The title is lurid, sure, but the film itself presents a a pretty compelling set of characters and situations. Prince Mamuwalde is cursed with vampirism, he is freed from his coffin, meets his reincarnated wife, and then has to struggle with the dichotomy between his role as an undead monster thirsting for blood and his role as a loving husband. c.) All of the above is done in such a way that is gripping, both in terms of emotional substance AND terror. d.) Blacula won the Saturn award for Best Horror Film for 1972. Its far from the cornball goof-off its perceived as. Just because it's quality doesn't mean it's not blaxploitation. Not that blaxploitation is really that bad of a thing, like bob seems to think. Hell, The Wiz is black exploitation and that movie didn't hurt nobody.
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Post by bob on Jul 28, 2009 13:02:15 GMT -5
or it could be that my girlfriend is black
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Post by Some kind of a DSR-type person on Jul 28, 2009 14:33:24 GMT -5
a.) I fail to see how anybody is being exploited by Blacula. What, black people don't want to see other black people on film? And Black actors don't want fans? I could see if the movie were made in a way that mocked black people but... b.) ...It wasn't. The title is lurid, sure, but the film itself presents a a pretty compelling set of characters and situations. Prince Mamuwalde is cursed with vampirism, he is freed from his coffin, meets his reincarnated wife, and then has to struggle with the dichotomy between his role as an undead monster thirsting for blood and his role as a loving husband. c.) All of the above is done in such a way that is gripping, both in terms of emotional substance AND terror. d.) Blacula won the Saturn award for Best Horror Film for 1972. Its far from the cornball goof-off its perceived as. Just because it's quality doesn't mean it's not blaxploitation. Not that blaxploitation is really that bad of a thing, like bob seems to think. Hell, The Wiz is black exploitation and that movie didn't hurt nobody. My main argument regarding blaxploitation ("a" above) came from an interview in the documentary "Baadasssss Cinema: A Bold Look At '70s Blaxploitation Films." And it just kinda makes sense to me that there's benefits to the genre that are overlooked. People like Pam Grier and Richard Roundtree became 70s icons, black audiences had characters they could root for (as opposed to the stereotypical "black people always die first" in predominantly "white" cinema, or even the blatantly racist characterizations of decades prior). I understand how the term "blaxploitation" comes about, but it didn't feel to the makers of the documentary that black people were being out-and-out exploited, and it doesn't really feel that way to me, either. Congratulations. I certainly didn't mean to come off like the black people that were/are offended by the genre are wrong or don't matter. And I certainly don't mean to sound disrespectful. I honestly have a great deal of admiration for the stars and makers of the "blaxploitation" cinema. I'm a fan of Richard Roundtree, of Pam Grier, and of William Marshall (the man who plays Mamuwalde/"Blacula").
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Post by Deadpool is Insane on Jul 30, 2009 15:35:28 GMT -5
Blacula narrowly wins. Next match up on the way.
By the way, it's really weird to see the conversation here get so serious.
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